"There's one way to love you but a thousand ways
to kill you,"
"Enough elementary schools in a ten mile radius to
initiate the most heinous school shooting ever imagined,"
You'd probably think old Oggy was having a laugh. Funny guy! Well, one Pennsylvania guy posted similar messages to his fuckbook page and was arrested for federal threats...
And here we are a while later and I'm talking about free speech as it applies to terrorizing Muslim worship.
Big Hero: Oggy, could you clarify your position, you traitorous draft dodging hypocrite?
Oggy: Sure. The thing is...
Big Hero: Cause we're all waiting to hear the next bat shit idea that comes out of your mouth.
Oggy: This is my interpretation of...
Big Hero: Big man behind his computer screen. Fucking world falling apart and you run down to Central America. Real Big Man!
Oggy: FYI...I've been deadly sick for two weeks. Vomiting all night. Shitting in a bag.
Big Hero: Wwaaaaahhh! You want some tampons for your cunt? You pussy bitch.
Oggy: I only get off the toilet to collapse on the floor.
Big Hero: Booooo Hooooo, you got me crying in my corn flakes.
Oggy: Can I finish my essay about Free Speech?
Big Hero: It's a free country, at least where I live, not down in some taco field in Central America where the savage fags run around with sombreros and swim across borders to....
(Oggy takes gun out and shoots Big Hero 12 times. Reloads. Shoots him another 12 times. Reloads and shoots him another 12 times.)
Oggy: I GUESS I'LL FINISH MY FUCKING SENTENCE NOW SINCE YOU ARE A BIG FUCKING HERO LYING IN A PUDDLE OF BLOOD AND I'LL PISS ON YOUR BONES SINCE I DRANK SO MUCH WATER TO REHYDRATE AND I GUESS I'LL SHIT IN WHAT REMAINS OF YOUR MOUTH TOO BECAUSE YOU ARE CLOSER THAN THE TOILET!
The deal is that posting dumb suicidal and homicidal shit to your fuckbook page or to your blog is that this is not public. It's basically a fictional diary that I publish and fictional diaries have no limit on depravity. That's a key feature. This blog is buried among something like 90,000,000 other fictional blogs. If you find this thing and hang around to read then that's your problem according to the SCOTUS. Death Threats against schools, in the eyes of the Supreme Court, is "Offensive and disagreeable" but not illegal. Actually making plans and going to a school and shooting children is, I'm pretty sure, still illegal. So, this guy was arrested and convicted of federal threats but the SCOTUS overturned the conviction, giving all closet mass murderers reason to cheer because until they kill someone then they can't be prevented from killing any more people. This does puzzle me because I have often written essays and saved them as drafts but not published them. Isn't this a feature of Fuckbook? By publishing the draft I am choosing to go live, to turn my private diary into a public announcement, which is not required to 'vent my emotions'. A diary that is 'just joking' doesn't have to be published. So by publishing it I am making it a public announcement and if it threatens anyone and causes real fear or havoc then it is irrelevant that I was 'just joking'. If I am just joking then keep it as a draft and don't publish it. That is responsible free speech. A threat that is intended to threaten and cause fear can't later be called a joke simply because you got caught before you followed through on the threat. But that's crazy Oggy thinking. SCOTUS wants you to threaten as many as possible but to do it in a way that can later be defended as a joke. They are saying that any threat I think up must be published because I can't hit the 'save as draft' button.
Yes, it's offensive and disagreeable to write about murdering school children. Yes, and I guess if you are busy body who cares about preventing mass murder then you will call the cops and they can investigate the threat. That is the point SCOTUS is getting at. The written threat is simply a starting point to investigate. It does not constitute any preparation to commit the threat that was written. But an investigation may turn up additional evidence, (maps, guns, suicide letter, a wall covered with photos and a few of them are crossed out, etc) and that can be used to prosecute a credible threat. But the simple typed words on a screen do no constitute enough evidence that the threat was anything more than a bleak slip to the dark side. We're all prone to those unless your medication is working perfectly and the SCOTUS isn't going to add to your depression the possibility that you will be arrested and charged and convicted of terrorist threats. No, but the threat may be used to begin an investigation that can be used to convict you, so mind yourself. There are some details of this case that have me scratching my head because this dude obviously intended to be threatening and after getting his restraining order from his ex-wife he continued to "threaten" her and even 'threaten' the FBI who came to investigate 'threats' against the school. His intent was to threaten and place them in fear. That's pretty obvious because he's a no-nut piece of shit and the only kicks he gets are from emotional terrorism. And that emotional terrorism is a violation of a federal threat statute. You can't call in a bomb threat to school and then say, "I was only joking. I don't have a bomb" No, you're getting fucked if you do that because if you're the only one in on the joke then your fake bomb threat will be treated like a real bomb threat and will cause real fear and cause real havoc...just like this idiot's 'threats' did inspire his ex-wife to file a restraining order. Was it a fake restraining order? No. It was real because the fear was real. But he put up disclaimers on his fuckbook account - "This is for entertainment purposes! Merely venting" etc. I guess I could say, "I'm merely venting by running you over with my car. haha. Just kidding! Oh, you broke your leg? Well, that's your fault. I wasn't serious. It was entertainment." This rationale puzzles me because his conviction was overturned. I really hope someone has some entertainment with him too, just for fun, not seriously breaking his spine, but pretending to break his spine. (That would entertainment and kind of like a movie. Not seriously though, just put him dead in a coffin and piss on him. Hahaha. not serious. who would do that? Only a hysterical comic! It's funny to call him a pig fucker who should die! Not serious! haha. I'm going to kill him and piss on his corpse <<<<JUST A JOKE! SCOTUS THINKS IT'S FUNNY.)
How this relates to the Phoenix Mosque terrorist attack by anti-Islam terrorists who have hijacked the 1st amendment is simple: The Pennsylvania guy was posting these messages on his private account. They basically amount to tasteless jokes of the, "Take my wife!" variety and if you don't like them then don't read them. HOWEVER, if this asshole actually marches to a school with cartoons of dead children and several handguns strapped to his back wearing bulletproof vests and begins to march around the school shouting "DEATH TO ALL STUDENTS! FUCK STUDENTS! NO MORE SCHOOLS!"
Then, I ask you, what choice do the students, teachers and parents have to avoid this lunatic? They have no choice and the issue becomes whether his right to denounce schools and verbally threaten and insult and mock them qualifies as free speech when it inspires real fear and can not be ignored? SCOTUS think it's a big joke. All I can say is that if you think this is free speech then PLEASE go experiment with it. But make sure to let me take out an insurance policy on you because you are going to get shot down like fucking dog. Several black people were arrested for making similar threats against white police and this SCOTUS decision pretty much sets the precedent that those people are innocent because they were merely venting. Well, that's good to know the law applies equally to blacks and whites. Threaten cops all you want but just make sure to 'be kidding'.
But something went wrong in Phoenix because the war pundits are winning their war to recruit puppet soldiers for their profit wars. That's the only difference. Islam has been demonized by several high profile pundits generating hysteria and they have been so successful that an armed mob can surround a mosque, hinder the worshipers, abridge their civil right to worship in peace, threaten them, insult them, mock them, wear shirts "FUCK ISLAM" make signs "NO MORE MOSQUES" Shout "MUSLIMS MUST DIE" and the police will stand around and consider it 'free speech'. Simply ask the people in the mob and they will tell you they intend to create fear, they intend to disrupt lawful prayer, they intend to terrorize. These protesters were not kidding but they were ignored regardless. Thanks, SCOTUS! Do a similar set of actions at a Yankee game in NY and you will be killed. Do it outside a Mosque? Police shrug. You literally must now shoot someone down like a dog before being considered a credible threat. Emotional terrorism is supported and defended by the 1st amendment in 4 states.
I denounce this because the Muslims have no choice. They must tolerate discrimination and persecution that is prohibited by federal law. I guess they could file a restraining order against all members of American Freedom Defense Initiative, and I would support that. Hell, I'd pay for it. They have no opportunity to turn the computer off or go to a different street. The hate group has not chosen a courthouse to have their event. They went to the mosque to guarantee a disruption of worship, which is prohibited, but the disruption, including emotional terrorism, was considered within the realm of free speech. All playground bullies can now breathe a sigh of relief that as long as they simply emotionally terrorize their targets then they are OK! Just say, "I was only kidding." and all will be forgiven. SCOTUS has your back.
Now, in my recent crusade for Islamic liberties I have learned that identical protests happen outside Latter Day Saint conferences. LDS, for some reason, is a persecuted religion and their prayer has been abridged. I didn't know anything about this because I thought the year wasn't 1840. The LDS are Mormons. I guess they are the same. I recently met some LDS missionaries and we literally sat around, read the bible in Spanish and prayed. I felt it caused no harm and they were respectful. I said, "Jesus Christ, Thank you for sending these two men to spread your glorious word of good and holy salvation. God bless them. God bless Guatemala. Amen."
It was different. I almost videoed it because it was so bizarre.
Well, some people aren't as tolerant as I am and they march on LDS conferences, where I'm sure the Mormons pray before and after the meetings, and the protesters disrupt the prayer. I was asked if I denounce this event too and I see it as very similar. Yes, it's a civil rights violation. If you can't abolish a religion without violating their civil right to worship in peace then you aren't going to abolish that religion. Sorry. Getting desperate only shows your whole premise is flawed. Folks in Utah are persecuting Mormons, abridging their right to worship, infringing on their civil liberties. Just because the religion is Mormon and not Muslim doesn't mean it's permissible. But again, the pundits opposing Mormons have won their local war and police make no arrests. They consider it free speech even though the Mormons have no option to avoid the threats of violence and insults and mockery. You're a fucking asshole if you march on an LDS conference. Yes, the Mormon religion is bat-shit crazy. Obviously an angel did not give Joseph Smith gold books that vanished and he led his people through a persecuted flight through the Mid West, where he was attacked and many were murdered and he advocated pedophilia and also bigamy, plural marriages, doomsday theory, mysticism. A bunch of utterly bat-shit ideas that have survived to this day. What can I say? It's not my business. Thomas Jefferson said, "Religion is a matter for a man and his god." It's not my concern even when two missionaries in Central America insist on praying with me in front of my van. Basically, they go home, they do not insult me. I have options to say, "Thanks, I don't want to meet anymore to pray to a false god. Goodbye." And they will leave and say I'm doomed to damnation. Boo Hoo for Oggy's soul.
When you stalk someone at their place of worship, surround them, insult them, threaten them, then they have no alternative and must tolerate you or kill you. The police do nothing so they have demonstrated their impotence. They are worthless. You must defend yourself because threats are intolerable. Do not accept a bully in your face. No. Emotional terrorists are not thoughtful people and they can't be reasoned with. It's easy to say that violence is not justified when you are not the one being stalked and surrounded and threatened. There's no scenario where I would ask for you to tolerate that and if the police are indifferent then you must defend yourself alone. It's a sad state of affairs when the court refuses to defend the 1st Amendment, but we've reached that stage in Texas, Arizona and also Utah where the abridgement of civil liberties is clearly a new tradition. I blame the pundits who villainize a religion like LDS or Islam or Satanism until they can get a dumb mob with pitchforks and march on a place of worship.
Lots of examples have been thrown in my face: "WHAT ABOUT THE GUY WHO PUT A STATUE OF JESUS ON HIS FRONT LAWN AND PISSED ON IT AND SHIT ON IT?"
My response: did he put it on the front lawn of a church? Can Christians avoid it?
"GAYS MARCH ON WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH TO DENOUNCE GAY BASHING"
My response: It's a civil rights violation. Worship may not be abridged.
"WESTBORO CHURCH MARCH ON GAY WEDDINGS/EVENTS WITH SIGNS "GOD HATES FAGS"
My response: It's a civil rights violation. The gay attendees can not avoid the threats and insults.
PRO LIFER LUNATICS BLOCKADE FEMINIST HEALTH CLINICS
My Response: I've received medical care at a feminist health clinic and it wasn't for a common cold. So get the fuck out of my way before I cough on you! It's a civil rights violation because I can't avoid them.
PRO CHOICE LUNATICS GO TO HEALTH CLINICS TO MURDER BABIES
My Response: Because the clinics do the job without a coat hanger, you ignorant fuck. There are 7 Billion people so unless God is going to build an escalator to another planet then let the women kill their sperm tumor before it mutates! Constitutional law is debated in court, not outside a health care clinic.
Like cigarette smoke, which I loathe, I don't go to restaurants or bars that allow smoking. If I go to park and people are smoking I move. It's a civil rights violation but I tolerate it because it's a big park and living with aspiring lung cancer patients is a cost of city living, like noise and dog shit. The one thing I liked about the oil field is that no one smoked. It was forbidden at the site because of flammable atmosphere and in company vehicles and the money involved proved you can pay someone to quit smoking because everyone quit. It smelled like diesel fuel and methane and Hydrogen sulfide, which can crystallize your lungs, but at least it didn't smell like cigarettes. But this issue arises with strippers and waiters and performers who look for work and must tolerate cigarette smoke. I would personally starve to death on the street before working around cigarettes but others are not so determined and have petitioned their governments to forbid smoking in their workplace so they don't die of cancer. Many states have accepted their argument but many have not. The reason is lobbyists and pundits.
In conclusion, at least we are having this conversation although there is a dead body with 36 bullet holes in it I have to go clean up now.( HAHA! <<----Just kidding, INTERPOL! ) The Missouri folk who attacked the Mormon wagon train in 1838 did not have this discussion. Maybe that is progress.
We
take God and all the holy angels to witness this day, that we warn all men in
the name of Jesus Christ, to come on us no more forever. For from this hour, we
will bear it no more, our rights shall no more be trampled on with impunity.
The man or the set of men, who attempts it, does it at the expense of their
lives. And that mob that comes on us to disturb us; it shall be between us and
them a war of extermination; for we will follow them till the last drop of
their blood is spilled, or else they will have to exterminate us: for we will
carry the seat of war to their own houses, and their own families, and one
party or the other shall be utterly destroyed.—Remember it then all MEN.[15]
-- Sidney Rigdon
"...Your
orders are, therefore, to hasten your operation with all possible speed. The
Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the
state if necessary for the public peace--their outrages are beyond all
description." - L.W.
Boggs*
I'll say it again: religious persecution never eradicates a religion and I denounce it. Even if religious persecution DID eradicate a religion I would denounce it because I don't want to live with anyone who is capable of eradicating a religion. I denounce terrorism in all forms. ISIS demonizes Christianity to recruit puppet soldiers and Fox news demonizes Islam to recruit puppet soldiers. In the end, a bunch of ignorant poor pawns will fight to profit the elite puppet masters. This has been the history of man and I suspect this will be the final fate of man, but I rest knowing I stood against it when I saw it. I did not ignore it. I did something.
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away." Mark 13-31
sign this petition to do something about it.
And while you are there sign the petition to ban infant circumcision because I lost my foreskin for absolutely barbaric reasons more suitable to Sharia law than America.
*The result of this war was a forced migration of Mormons from Missouri. They moved to Indiana. Then they moved to Utah. Then they moved back to Missouri when the extermination order was rescinded in 1976. Then they moved to all states. Now LDS missionaries are everywhere in the world. So, how effective was this war? I'm sure someone made some profit from it but not the men who died. It bore only poisoned fruit on which we still feast.
